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Testing the Waters

An LPN is seeking support for an initiative that would allow practical nurses to challenge RN licensure exams.


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Passing The Exam

Hale said she isn't sure LPNs should be made to believe they could pass the RN exam.

"Knowing what I know as a nurse, I know you have to have the appropriate knowledge to pass that test," she said. "I don't think I'd pass the test, I don't think Morell would pass the test, I don't think any LPN would."

Newman said this logic would also likely impact her state's board.

"You wouldn't want to set people up for disappointment," she said. "To grant an opportunity you'd want to promote success, not failure."

Morell and Darling prefer to think differently than Newman.

"This is all still a work in progress," Morell said. "We should be able to take the test as many times as an RN student would be permitted. I don't think that's something people think about anyway. And I may ultimately lose this battle, but at least I can go to bed at night knowing I tried to do something about it. If people already agree with me, nobody can tell me I'm wrong."

"I'd be interested to see if I could pass the test," Darling added. "I think at some point some of us get too old to go back to school, or at least too set in our ways as nurses. I think there'd have to be strict criteria for taking the test though, not just 10 years of experience."

Reeling In More Believers

Morell has heard the arguments against her "testing-out" initiative, but she still hasn't been persuaded to abandon the cause.

"Everyone has the right to disagree or add their perspectives, and I'm expecting more opposition as I move forward because people who set the agendas have already set the agendas," Morell explained. "But I also expect support to grow as well because those RNs who work with LPNs and respect us know we're competent and know that they need us."

One such individual is Maureen McCarthy, BS, RN, who signed the petition the weekend it went online.

"I don't agree with many of the restrictions that are placed on LPNs," said McCarthy, owner and operator of Celtic Consulting LLC, Goshen, CT. "For instance, in some states LPNs can't work as MDS coordinators. That's ridiculous, and facilities shouldn't have to use all their existing RN resources when they could turn to their LPNs."

Though she signed the petition, McCarthy believes there should be limitations to it.

"I do agree that LPNs should be able to challenge the boards, but I think they should be limited to attaining the ADN and should be forced to practice in the setting they're experienced in," she said. "So, I don't think you should be able to work 10 years as an LPN in long-term care and then challenge the boards to work as an RN in the OR. And the BSN degree is more geared toward management and scientific research, which isn't the same as experience working at the bedside."

Similarly, Darling proposes that those LPNs who would test out receive a level of pay commensurate with ADN nurses.

"That way, this initiative would clearly be about the nursing, not about the money," she said.

But Arnicar isn't sold on these theories. Passing the test is passing the test, she says.

"Many LPNs have the skills and abilities to do what RNs do," she said. "In fact, 90 percent of my administrators are LPNs. I honestly consider my two best clinical nurses to be LPNs. I only staff RN in administration where required by law."

What Would Happen To The LPN?

This "challenge" discussion begs the question, Alexander says, of what would become of the LPN role if states followed this trend. Would LPNs simply disappear or would they lose their duties to experienced unlicensed staff?

"I wonder if these same LPNs who want to challenge the RN licensure exam would be comfortable with nursing assistants with 10 years' experience being allowed to challenge the LPN exam, and taking their jobs," she mused. "But boards of nursing would not support that because it'd be as equally an unsafe a situation as LPNs challenging RN boards, and I'm sure LPNs wouldn't support this either."

As far as Morell is concerned, this is already an issue, sort of.

"There are many facilities who promote the use of unlicensed personnel instead of the LPN," she said. "In Connecticut, we now have paid feeding assistants - people who feed residents who have no swallowing difficulties. By using these unlicensed personnel, facilities can get things done cheaper. It's just not fair. The RNs could argue the same thing against LPNs, but if our scope of practice was more involved, we wouldn't have to be looked at in that light."

Joe Darrah is associate editor at ADVANCE.


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Experienced LPN's used to be able to challenge the RN Board in Florida, actually they called it "grandfathered in".
The real "Challenge" is getting the archives together, the actual regulation that permitted it in the first place and see why the RN Boards stopped it. That is a real place to start

Carol Fields,  LPNNovember 06, 2009
Miami, FL



I have been an LPN for 22 years and have faced many of the diversities as everyone else has. I too have heard the "why don't you become a Real Nurse" I always said LPN does not stand for "Let's Pretend Nurse". Many LPN's now have certifications unavailable 10 years ago. The profession is changing, and not always in our favor. LPN's with 10+ years experience should be allowed to challenge the board exam. I believe that our own profession has created this nursing shortage, and we are going to have to be the one's to fix it.

Susan Holland,  LPN/Charge Nurse,  Ambulatory CareJune 21, 2009
Bradenton, FL



To all the RN's out there....I understand and admire the fact that you were able to complete an RN program and I don't minimize that for a moment.

However as an LPN since 1981 I feel I have gained the knowledge in the "pitts" of nursing that can't be taught in a book or classroom.

I would have loved the chance to attend an RN program after completing the LPN program, but as I am sure all the LPN's are aware of out there we usually make far less then our RN counterparts. Making ends meet is hard enough.

I have worked just as hard as the RN's and in many instances harder. In all honesty I am tired of being asked "If I am a real Nurse?", "Why didn't I go back to school to be a real Nurse?" and being overlooked for positions because I have the wrong initials after my name, even though I could do the job as good if not better.

The sad part is that many LPN's are leaving Nursing because they either can't afford to go back to college, can't work and go to college ar the same time or they are tired of being treated like they aren't Nurses.

If you want to address the Nursing shortage there you go....there are not enough Nurses now and it is only getting worse. I would love to work at my local hospital but I'm not an RN so I can't get a job there. Instead I work for an insurance company.

I would love the opportunity to take the RN boards so that I could prove my worth and demonstrate the knowledge you only learn by doing.

I also happen to live in the not so great state of Illinois (the only state that does not recognize the Regents Program of home study for LPN to RN bridge), how do we 40+ year olds keep our jobs and go to school fulltime? Let's be honest most can't do both.

I am currently still taking the pre-req's a class at a time that are rrquired to even try to get into a program that may let me bridge out the first year. If I am so lucky to do that I would not be able to work and go to school fulltime, then what?

I do understand and in many ways agree LPN's should not just be grandfathered into being an RN but there could be criteria set. Like licensed LPN >10 years, completed the pharmacolgy course, completes courses and training for CEU's, etc.

All I ever wanted to be was a Nurse and to many people I still am not....it's all in the initial's I guess.

RN=REAL NURSE.....LPN=LICENSED PRACTICAL NON-NURSE
(Yes, that is what someone called me because they only wanted an RN to care for them because I wasn't a nurse)


Grace Rice,  LPN, Manager of Medical ManageJuly 18, 2008
Naperville, IL



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